Related%20passage for Eruvin 157:18

ורב הונא בריה דרב יהושע אמר אפילו תימא בבית עשרה

- I might reply: In the case of a house, since it has<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cur. edd. in parenthesis, 'walls and'.');">⁶⁰</span> a ceiling, the reduction in the straw is quite noticeable,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since the lower the straw the bigger the space between it and the ceiling. As its diminution to a height of less than ten handbreadths would be clearly noticeable the use of the straw would cease as soon as that height was reached. Above that height the straw does not serve the purpose of a wall and is not, therefore, subject to the restrictions of mukzeh.');">⁶¹</span> but here<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where the heap is in the open.');">⁶²</span> the diminution is not noticeable.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And one might erroneously continue to use the straw even after it had been reduced in height to less than ten handbreadths when the restrictions of mukzeh prevent its use. Hence R. Huna's ruling that no straw may be put into a tenant's basket for feeding his cattle.');">⁶³</span> 'If the height of the straw was reduced to less than ten handbreadths both are forbidden'. But, it follows, if it was ten handbreadths high this is permitted even though the ceiling was much higher. May it not then be inferred that partitions that do not reach the ceiling are regarded as valid ones?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' But is not this contradictory to a ruling (supra 72a) in respect of five companies who kept the Sabbath in the same room.');">⁶⁴</span> - Abaye replied: We are here dealing with the case of a house that was thirteen handbreadths minus a fraction in height and that of the straw was ten handbreadths in height.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On the principle of labud the walls are deemed to reach to the ceiling.');">⁶⁵</span> R'Huna son of R'Joshua, however, replied: It may even refer to a house that was ten handbreadths high

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